In a previously recorded interview with Swiss broadcaster RSI, Pope Francis advised Ukraine to demonstrate what he referred to as the bravery of the “white flag” and engage in negotiations to bring an end to the war with Russia, which began with Moscow’s full-scale invasion two years ago and has resulted in tens of thousands of casualties.

The Pope’s remarks were made before Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan’s recent offer to host a summit between Ukraine and Russia to resolve the conflict. Erdogan extended this offer following discussions with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who reiterated his desire for peace but maintained his stance against surrendering any territory.

Zelenskiy’s peace proposal involves the complete withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine and the restoration of its territorial integrity, terms that the Kremlin has rejected. A spokesperson for Zelenskiy did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the Pope’s statements.

When asked during the interview about the debate surrounding Ukraine’s options in the face of Russian aggression, with some advocating for surrender and others cautioning against legitimizing the actions of the stronger party, Pope Francis acknowledged the complexity of the situation. He emphasized the importance of considering the well-being of the people and having the courage to negotiate, even in the face of adversity.

Francis stressed that negotiations should involve international mediation and underscored the need to act before the situation worsens. He also mentioned Turkey among the countries offering mediation services. The Pope reiterated his willingness to facilitate dialogue, emphasizing the importance of avoiding further loss of life.

The interview also touched upon the conflict between Israel and Hamas, with Pope Francis asserting that negotiations should never be viewed as a surrender.

Zelenskiy recently reported significant casualties among Ukrainian soldiers and civilians since the onset of the Russian invasion in February 2022, highlighting the urgent need for a peaceful resolution to the conflict.